i have a different set that has i believe 30 of these in one set but they are the same jumbo pencils. I found the set on amazon and it was a really good price and the quality is pretty good. I use them mostly just on my eyes. I apply it thickly to my lids and then use an eyeshadow blender brush to make the color blend together better and to create a more higher quality look. It does wear off kind ...read moreof quickly so i use a primer before it, and i like to use the white colored one before i apply the colored one so i get a nice bright intense color, and then i may apply powder over it. As for using it as a lip pencil. Its good as a liner but not for the whole lips. It feels a little stiff and does not look very smooth so for lips i only like it as a liner. For eyeliner the tip is a little too fat to get a nice sharp look but if you have an eyeliner guide/stencil to use or do not mind using makeup remover to shape it more to create a nice wing, then it should be fine. But overall for the price it was great and i would recommend them.
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